[1885] Also seen as Precylla and Dille.
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|_Elena "Lena" VAN VOORHEESE _|
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[1529] John and Catherine had several children. Amongst those children were William, Elena, Aaron, Catherine and John, but there were, apparently, more. All information on the Courter connection was initially received from Judy Courter Ullman.
_John Edward EARLE __+
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_Sylvester Zobieski EARLE _|
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|--Elsie EARLE
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|_Theresa Z. ? _____________|
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_Johannis (Hannes) HENSELBEKKER _|
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Also seen as "Hinselpecker". This is the one "brother" who appears to have remained, at least for a time, in the newly independent United States, after the others had moved up to Canada in the mid 1780's. Was likely NOT a loyalist. Neither John nor Michel were ever listed in the muster rolls of loyalist troops (at least, not tthat anyone has found). Because of this fact, he is currently the likeliest choice for Coonrad's (who married Elizabeth Smith) father. This "John" was on the tax lists of Franklin, Bergen County, New Jersey, from 1780 through 1797.
There is a slight chance, depending on the researcher and strength of opinion, that this particular John "Hanselpacker" is one "paralleled" by a John Packer, also of Franklin (then "Saddle River") township, in the same timeframe. My PERSONAL opinion is not in agreement with those who would think this way, for nothing other than the following fact. Why, if a person were changing their surname from Hanselpacker to Packer, would they keep using it on the tax lists through 1797, and have their son use the name on his marriage record as "Hanselpacker"? It makes very little sense, with those facts in mind. However, so as not to preclude the possibility, here are some "facts" about John PACKER:
Filed for Rev War Pension No. S3635, in Bergen County, New Jersey, Private, NJ Militia, in the Court of Common Pleas, 31-Oct-1821, John Packer, a resident of Franklin Township, Bergen County, New Jersey, age 71 years, b. 25 Dec 1760 (MAKE NOTE) "in partof Saddle River Township; now callled Franklin Township; Berge Co; NJ;" died, late 1840 at Campgaw.
(MAKE NOTE) I find it strange that the dates don't match up. If one were 71 years old in 1821, one would have to be born in 1750 not 1760. Surely and acceptable mistype or misread, which MIGHT make a world of difference, if there was more detailed information available on John Hanselpacker!
I still don't hold to the theory about THIS John Packer, being the same John Hanselpacker. If the Hanselpackers of Bergen eventually changed the surname to Packer, it was AFTER 1808, sometime.
From Phil O'Leary, another more likely reasoning can be made, when taking into consideration the following facts:
A Margaret Tice, wife of John Packer, died 12-May-1843, aged 81 years, 7 months and 17 days. and is buried in the Wyckoff RDC Cemetery (RDC=Reformed Dutch Church). That would put her birth year around 1761, and, her connection to the RDC, indicates at least a likelihood of a greater chance of her marrying another Lutheran. Not that there weren't "English" Lutherans, too, but, less common.
Now to throw a major twist into the theories. In a tax list for Bergen County in 1793 (10 years after the others moved to Canada) the following names are found: John Hinselpecker, John W. Packer, Conrad Packer, Thomas Hammon, Samuel Romine, Albert Wilson, Peter P. Tise, Abraham J. and Abraham H. Garretson. The name of Tise was prior, Tice, and prior Theiss. Garretson was later "Garrison" and prior Gerritsen or Gerritson. There is a greater chance that THIS John was actually the father of Michel Henselbekker, but that, again, still remains unprovable. He may, however, be considered a possibility of being the one Johannes proposed for Warden of the Ramapo Church in 1774 (see notes on "Mr. Henselbekker") If this particular John ever went to Canada, it was likely sometime after 1800.
Another note of interest regarding John. Or, perhaps, a son of his named John??? There is record of a marriage between a John Hanselbekker and a Rachel Traphagen, on 22-Nov-1795 at Kakiat, New Jersey. Married by George G. Brinkerhoff. Brinkerhoff, licensed in 1788, was the "Dominie" at the Kakiat/Kekeat and Ramapo, from 1793 - 18??. In pre-1790 NJ Census, I found three Traphagens: Jonathan (in Hackensack), Johannes (also in Hackensack) and David (in Bedminster, Somerset County). I have no way of knowing which John H'packer this was, who married Rachel. Further research in the area is required. However, am listing the John who married Rachel as SON of this John, for now. Just to allow for search hits on Traphagen, if nothing else.
Just as John who married Rachel is with this set of parents only because they SEEM to have been the only couple around at that time with the family name, so is Catherine Henselpecker being "assigned" to this couple until some other connection might be found. Received information from a "Courter" researcher that Catherine Henselpecker married John Courter around 1795. This, of course, indicating she was amongst the family that remained in New Jersey.
It is without certainty which of the "Johns" will was probated in 1788, my guess is it was either this John or his father.
_James William KAYE __+
| (1856 - 1929) m 1879
_Clinton Tremaine KAYE _|
| (1896 - 1961) m 1921 |
| |_Kate Lewis STEADMAN _+
| (1859 - 1933) m 1879
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|_Ellen Ruth WRAN _______|
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[1269] living - details excluded
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May not be a Keen(e) by birth. Seems her daughter, Mary E. Keen is listed with Edmund in 1901 Canada Census. He's, of course, listed as a widower.
May have had dau. Mary E, by previous marriage. Mary showing up as step-daughter to Edmund "E." Handspiker in the Digby (town) 1901 Census. Mary's b.d. is listed as 14-May-1834, age as 67.
A Margaret Keene married Edwin Bartlett, we see Margaret as wife of Edmund in 1881 Census... is this the possible confusion point? She was obviously married before, unless Edmund fathered his first child at 17 or earlier (depending on source). I'm just not sure if Margaret and Mae are one and the same??? Need marriage records for all Handspiker males with "Ed" names, who were born 1815-1825 or so! Have also seen this woman listed as "Margaret Mae Keene" by other researchers, not sure if that's because of her actual name, or because the wife of Edmund appears as both Margaret and Mae? Perhaps, they were sisters! (sorry, couldn't help myself)
Whether or not there was another Edmund of concern, here is an obit for Margaret Ann, wife of Edmund Handspiker (in case it is later determined to be THIS woman):
Digby Courier - June 8, 1888---At Digby on the 30th of May, Margaret Ann, beloved wife
of Edmund Handspiker, aged 72 years.
It surely fits with age and that she passed away prior to 1901 Census.
In 1881 Census, Mary E. Handspiker appears as age 44 and single, with Edmund as Head of Household, so I SUSPECT she was a step-daughter to Edmund Needham.
For Digby town, Digby County, NS, 1881:
Edmund HANDSPIKER M Male English 61 Nova Scotia Farmer Baptist
Margaret HANDSPIKER M Female English 64 Nova Scotia Baptist
Mary E HANDSPIKER Female English 44 Nova Scotia Baptist
If "Mae" Keene is Margaret Keene, it provides even more concern between Edmund Needham, Edward E. and Edwin Bartlett Handspiker. These three seem to have been confused over time, and/or, are to SOME degree, one and the same????
Much to be worked out with these three, thanks to common names of wives, children, occupations, etc.
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_Charles Russel VANTASSEL _|
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| _David James HANDSPIKER _+
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|_Mary Jane HANDSPIKER _____|
(1861 - 1933) m 1875 |
|_Rebecca HAM ____________+
(1831 - 1893) m 1859