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Arthur Folka Berglund , Jr. (M)
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     Arthur Folka Berglund , Jr. is the son of Arthur Folka Berglund and Marion Hadik.

Bertel (Berthel) Iversen Ganderup (M)
b. 24 June 1849, d. 24 October 1922
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     Bertel (Berthel) Iversen Ganderup was naturalized; Worker in Felt Factory. He Originally had birthdate as 11-Aug-1838, in Nustrup, Denmark. However, based on 1920 Census age of 70, that's about 10 years off. The 1838 birth date was likely a son of same name to same parents who died at a young age (in 1839). Another date came from a fellow researcher, indicating a birth of 24-Jun-1849 in Kastrup, Denmark (source record is baptismal record from church).
We KNOW the Berthel born 1838 is not right for two reasons.

NOTE: Because of 10 year gap in births, suspect Christina and John may have been born to first wife, and the remainder of the children to Anna. Another 'theory' is that Berthel was married in Denmark, to his first wife, and married Anna, after arriving in the US... JUST a theory!!! Also, first three children born in NY, remainder in CT, which could be another consideration on the split of children to respective mothers.

Gandrups in Norwalk, CT, are ALL from Denmark.

Berthel Gandrup appears as age 70 in the 1920 Census, his listing is just below a John Gandrup, age 31, his son.

Only Gandrups in 1920 Census in Connecticut are in Norwalk. (1920 U.S. Census, Connecticut, Fairfield, Norwalk, ED# 148) They are Berthel, age 70, b. Denmark, and son John, age 31, b. New York. Both male heads of households, living next door to one another on New Canaan Avenue. John was married to ?Cora B.?, age 27, b. Connecticut. John was a carpenter and Berthel a 'helper' in a the Felt Factory. Berthel MAY prove to be Christine's father. John is SURELY Berthel's son. Listed with Berthel are his wife, Anna M, age 56, also born in Denmark (both arr 1880, nat. 1885, though Anna MAY have been 1883 and 1885, respectively - very blurry), Ernest (21) b. NY, Easter or Esther (19) b. CT, Frederick (16) b. CT, Ruth M. (14) b. CT. It appears that the family moved from NY to CT, right around the turn of the century.
The name Gandrup is exclusively Danish in origins.

Son: Soren I Gandrup - lived in Greenwich, CT, died 9-Aug-1958, age 77. Wife's name was Georgiana M. ? (d. 27-Jun-1953 age 67) . (source - CT Death Index)

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From Martin Bjarklev:
After years of searching, a kind friend checked the Manhattan death index for 1905, found the death of the wife at Bellevue Hospital, obtained her death certificate and traced her grave to Kensico Cemetery where she is buried in Lot C, range 5, grave 169, under the name Anna Gandroupe.
Carl Valdemar Gandrup, born 5/13/1880 in Nykobing, Denmark, departed Denmark, on 12/2/1903, aboard the 'Hellig Olav' bound for a new life in America. He left his wife, Anna Christina Gandrup, born 12/25/1881, and his little daughter, Leonora Christina Gandrup, born 8/28/1900, in Denmark. Carl settled in New York and sent for his family the following year. On 11/2/1904, Anna and young Leonora departed Denmark aboard the 'Oscar II' bound for New York. By January 1905 Anna was in Bellevue Hospital with typhoid fever and TB. She died on 3/11/1905 and is apparently buried at Kensico. Their latest known address is 1905: 222 E 11 st in N.Y.

Only other Gandrup listed as arriving at Ellis Island is Petrine, female, arriving as a US Citizen in 1892, aged 21, residing in NY.
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In 1925 Norwalk City Directory, the following members of this family are listed:

Gandrup, Anna M., widow of 'Bartol' home on New Canaan Avenue
Gandrup, Ernest (Beatrice) - plumber - 31 W. Main
Gandrup, Frederick I - carpenter - New Canaan Ave
John (Cora) - carpenter - Bartlett Ave
Ruth - Clerk - 11 N. Main South Norwalk - residence New Canaan Ave

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After Berthel's first wife, Karen, died during childbirth, Berthel (sometimes seen as 'B. Iversen Gandrup') invited Karen's sister, Anna, to join him in the US, and to become his wife. QUESTION: Was he already living in the US and sent for her? Or, had he decided to go to the US but to bring with him, Anna, as his wife? See below, for the answer:

Berthel Gandrup family in 1910 Census (note: Christina in New Canaan, as servant for Mr. King)
State: Connecticut, County: FAIRFIELD, Locale: NORWALK, Series: T624, Roll: 130
Part: 1 Page: 55A
Berthel, 60, M2 26 (1883/84), Born Denmark, Imm. 1880/Na, Laborer in Silk Mill.
Anna, Wife, 46, M1 26 (1883/84), Born Denmark, Imm. 1884
John, Son, 22, b. NY, House Carpenter
Bertha, Dau, 18, b. NY, Stitcher (shirt shop?)
Anna, Dau, 16, b. NY, Stitcher
Gunda, Dau, 14, b. NY,
Ernest, Son, 12, b. NY,
Esther, Dau, 10, b. CT,
Frederick, Son, 7, b. CT,
Ruth, Dau, 4, b. CT,
Hyatt, Elmer, Son-in-law, 22, M1, JUST MARRIED (0), b. CT, Hatter in a hat shop.
Carrie, dau, 24, M1 0, b. CT (odd!)

Since Berthel emigrated in 1880, he either left a pregnant wife in Denmark, (Karen), who then came over with Soren, or, they came together in 1880 and Soren was born in the US. Either way, it would seem, unless there was much travelling back and forth, that the dau. Annie was born, and died, in the US. Karen must have died in the US, in 1883.

Now that we know Berthel and Karen 'Jar' came over in 1880, she MUST have died on US soil, probably in NY, before moving to CT? Here are there entries for the ship 'Anchoria':

Glasgow, Scotland to New York
June 7, 1880
Anchor Line of Translantic Steam Packet Ships

District of New York - Port of New York
I, John Hedderwick, Master of the Steamship , Anchoria, do solemnly, sincerely and truly that the following List of Manifest, subscribed by me, and now delivered by me to the Collector of the Customs of the Colletion District of New York, is a full and perfect list of all the passengers taken on board of the said S. S. Anchoria. At Glasgow for which port said Vessel has now arrived and that on said list is truly designated the age, the sex, and the occupation of each of said passengers, the part of the vessel occupied by each during the passage, the country to which each belongs, and also the country of which it is intended by each to become an inhabitant; and that this said list or Manifest truly sets forth the number of said passengers who have died on said voyage, and the names and ages of those who died.

Sworn to this June 7, 1880.
John Hedderwick, So help me God.

Before me, John Osborne.

List of Manifest, of all the Passengers taken on board the Steam ship Anchoria., whereof John Hedderwick is Master, from Glasgow burthen 2413 tons.

Columns represent: name, age, sex, occupation, country of origin, destination

List of total of 315 passengers, with Berthel and 'Jar' as passengers #264 and #265:

264 B. I. Ganderup 30 M Farmer     Denmark      U.S.A. Steerage
265 Kar?? Ganderup 27 F Wife          Denmark      U.S.A. Steerage

From: http://istg.rootsweb.com/v4/1800v4/anchoria18800607.html

Their arrival before 1892, is why no record on Ellis Island. Their departure from Glasgow may be the reason they don't appear on the Danish Emigration site.

From Martin Bjarklev, after research in Danish Archives:

GRAM PARISH CHURCH RECORDS

Page 26 nr. 32 1849
24-Jun-1849
Bertel Iversen Ganderup
Baptized in Gram church 9-Sep-1849
Father: Tennant Søren Hansen Ganderup
Mother: Christine Meier of Kastrup (village in Gram parish)
Witnesses are: Farmer: Iver Lunds wife Gunder Marie in Brundelund. Tennant Peder Meier of Aalkjær. Bertel Iversen Meier of Brundelund (NB: Peder Meier must be family of the mother - Bertel Iversen Meier too. And this is why Bertel is called Iversen. This is highly unusual. His fathers name would have had to be Iver, if they would follow the normal Danish patronymics rules...)

SPECIAL NOTE: Haderslev may also be seen as Hadersleben, depending on whether or not records are Danish or German, I suppose. It's often seen as Hadersleben in German records, at least.

In the family plot at Riverside Cemetery is a grave for 'Baby' Gandrup, who was born and died on 19-May-1929, likely a son, but, no indication of to what couple he might have been born. He was born on 24 June 1849 at Kastrup, Denmark. He was the son of Søren (Sören) Hansen Ganderup and Kirstine Berthelsdatter Meier. Bertel (Berthel) Iversen Ganderup was baptized on 9 September 1849 at Gram Parish Church, Haderslev County, Denmark. He married Karen Jensdatter Kjerkegaard, daughter of Jens Christensen Kirkegaard and Ane Margrethe Frese, on 8 May 1880 at Eltang Church, Haderslev, Denmark. Bertel (Berthel) Iversen Ganderup married Anna Margarethe Kjerkegaard, daughter of Jens Christensen Kirkegaard and Ane Margrethe Frese, in 1883 at USA (or Denmark... depending). Bertel (Berthel) Iversen Ganderup died on 24 October 1922 at Norwalk, Fairfield County, Connecticut, USA, at age 73. He was buried on 24 October 1922 at Riverside Cemetery, Norwalk, Connecticut, USA.

Children of Bertel (Berthel) Iversen Ganderup and Karen Jensdatter Kjerkegaard
Soren Iversen Gandrup b. 16 Mar 1881, d. 9 Aug 1958
Annie Gandrup b. bt 1882 - 1883, d. bt 1882 - 1883

Children of Bertel (Berthel) Iversen Ganderup and Anna Margarethe Kjerkegaard
Christina M. Gandrup+ b. 9 Apr 1884, d. 27 Sep 1972
Karen 'Carrie' Gandrup b. 19 Nov 1885, d. 26 Jun 1952
John Iversen Gandrup+ b. 26 May 1888, d. 12 Jan 1970
Female Gandrup b. 1890, d. 1890
Bertha Gandrup b. 11 Nov 1892, d. 1 Jun 1958
Anna Marie Gandrup b. 8 May 1894, d. Jul 1921
Gunda Gandrup b. 29 Jul 1896, d. 19 Nov 1963
Ernest Gandrup+ b. 22 Jun 1898, d. 5 Mar 1974
Esther Gandrup b. 23 Sep 1900, d. 19 Jun 1989
Frederick Iversen Gandrup+ b. 1 Feb 1903, d. 31 Mar 1984
Ruth Mae Gandrup b. 19 Nov 1905, d. 26 Jun 1984

Anna Margarethe Kjerkegaard (F)
b. 19 August 1863, d. 16 October 1953
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     Her married name was Ganderup. Anna Margarethe Kjerkegaard Anna may be seen as Anna M. Gandrup or Anna K. Gandrup, depending on record/source.

Living with son, Frederick, in 1930 US Census. Listed as arriving in USA in 1883.

Anna M. in 1920 Census, listed on page following Berthel and John, with the following children:

Ernest (21 b. NY - repairman), Esther (19 - filing clerk at bank), Frederick (16 - laborer at Ice Pound or Pond), Ruth M. (14). It clearly shows Anna as arriving USA in 1883 and naturalizing in 1885 (may need to seek naturalization records in NYC?)

GANDRUP, ANNA K
Death Date: October 16 1953
Race: White
Death Place: Norwalk, Fairfield, Connecticut
Sex: Female
Spouse: BART
Age: 90 Years
Birth Place:
Residence: Norwalk, Fairfield, Connecticut (59 Fair Street, at time of her death)
Birth Date: xxxYOB (though we can estimate 1842 or 43 based on age at
death)
Address:
Father:
Industry:
Occupation:
State File #: 16331

Anna's obituary read as follows (a bit blurry):

'Mrs. Anna K. Gandrup, 90, widow of Berthel Gandrup, died this morning at the home of her daughter, Mrs. George P. Ross of Fair Street. A native of Denmark, she has live in Norwalk 5? years and was a longtime resident of the Broad River section.
She is survived by four sons, Soren Gandrup of Byram, and John, Ernest and Fred Gandrup of Norwalk; five daughters, Mrs. Louis Wheeler, Mrs ? Ross, Mrs. Guada Carruthers of Norwalk, Mrs. Esther Hvolbeck of Byram and Mrs. William O. Morgan of Westport, 15 grandchildren and 15 great grand-children.' She was born on 19 August 1863 at Christianfeld, Denmark. She was the daughter of Jens Christensen Kirkegaard and Ane Margrethe Frese. Anna Margarethe Kjerkegaard married Bertel (Berthel) Iversen Ganderup, son of Søren (Sören) Hansen Ganderup and Kirstine Berthelsdatter Meier, in 1883 at USA (or Denmark... depending). Anna Margarethe Kjerkegaard died on 16 October 1953 at Norwalk, Fairfield County, Connecticut, USA, at age 90. She was buried on 19 October 1953 at Riverside Cemetery, Norwalk, Connecticut, USA.

Children of Anna Margarethe Kjerkegaard and Bertel (Berthel) Iversen Ganderup
Christina M. Gandrup+ b. 9 Apr 1884, d. 27 Sep 1972
Karen 'Carrie' Gandrup b. 19 Nov 1885, d. 26 Jun 1952
John Iversen Gandrup+ b. 26 May 1888, d. 12 Jan 1970
Female Gandrup b. 1890, d. 1890
Bertha Gandrup b. 11 Nov 1892, d. 1 Jun 1958
Anna Marie Gandrup b. 8 May 1894, d. Jul 1921
Gunda Gandrup b. 29 Jul 1896, d. 19 Nov 1963
Ernest Gandrup+ b. 22 Jun 1898, d. 5 Mar 1974
Esther Gandrup b. 23 Sep 1900, d. 19 Jun 1989
Frederick Iversen Gandrup+ b. 1 Feb 1903, d. 31 Mar 1984
Ruth Mae Gandrup b. 19 Nov 1905, d. 26 Jun 1984

Ruth Mae Gandrup (F)
b. 19 November 1905, d. 26 June 1984
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     Ruth Mae Gandrup was naturalized; Record Librarian at Hospital (1930). Her married name was Morgan. She Residence at date of death: 269 Main Street (06880) Westport, CT. Living with brother, Frederick (along with mother, Anna) in 1930 US Census, listed as being single. She was born on 19 November 1905 at Connecticut, USA. She was the daughter of Bertel (Berthel) Iversen Ganderup and Anna Margarethe Kjerkegaard. Ruth Mae Gandrup married William 'Will' Oliver Morgan on 28 March 1936. Ruth Mae Gandrup died on 26 June 1984 at Westport, Connecticut, USA, at age 78.

William 'Will' Oliver Morgan (M)
b. 6 March 1906, d. 30 January 1989

     William 'Will' Oliver Morgan was naturalized; Doctor. He From Florida Death Index, 1980-1989:
Name: William Oliver Morgan
Certificate: 5504
Death Place: Hillsborough
Race: W
Death Date: 30 Jan 1989
Birth Date: 06 Mar 1906. He was born on 6 March 1906. He married Ruth Mae Gandrup, daughter of Bertel (Berthel) Iversen Ganderup and Anna Margarethe Kjerkegaard, on 28 March 1936. William 'Will' Oliver Morgan died on 30 January 1989 at Hillsborough, Florida, USA, at age 82.

John Banks (M)
b. between 1779 and 1780, d. 1834
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     John Banks was born between 1779 and 1780 at Granville, Annapolis County, Nova Scotia, Canada. He was the son of Joshua Banks and Dorothea Craft. John Banks married Mary 'Polly' Farnsworth, daughter of Joel Farnsworth and Abigail Fales, on 9 September 1811 at Granville, Annapolis County, Nova Scotia, Canada. John Banks died in 1834 at Granville, Annapolis County, Nova Scotia, Canada.

Child of John Banks and Mary 'Polly' Farnsworth
William Banks+ b. 17 Jun 1812

William Banks (M)
b. 17 June 1812
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     William Banks was born on 17 June 1812. He was the son of John Banks and Mary 'Polly' Farnsworth.

Child of William Banks and Rachel Elliott
Rebecca Banks+ b. 1846

Rachel Elliott (F)

Child of Rachel Elliott and William Banks
Rebecca Banks+ b. 1846

Rebecca Banks (F)
b. 1846
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     Her married name was Hudson. Rebecca Banks was born in 1846 at Granville, Annapolis County, Nova Scotia, Canada. She was the daughter of William Banks and Rachel Elliott. Rebecca Banks married Israel Hudson, son of William Hudson and Ann ?, on 21 July 1870 at Parker's Cove, Annapolis County, Nova Scotia, Canada.

Child of Rebecca Banks and Israel Hudson
Margaret Mae Hudson+ b. 20 May 1874, d. 28 Dec 1960

Israel Hudson (M)
b. 1833
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     Israel Hudson was buried at Stony Beach Cemetery, Granville, Nova Scotia, Canada. He was naturalized; Farmer. He was born in 1833 at Granville, Annapolis County, Nova Scotia, Canada. He was the son of William Hudson and Ann ?. Israel Hudson married Rebecca Banks, daughter of William Banks and Rachel Elliott, on 21 July 1870 at Parker's Cove, Annapolis County, Nova Scotia, Canada.

Child of Israel Hudson and Rebecca Banks
Margaret Mae Hudson+ b. 20 May 1874, d. 28 Dec 1960

Margaret Mae Hudson (F)
b. 20 May 1874, d. 28 December 1960
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     Her married name was Apt. Margaret Mae Hudson was born on 20 May 1874. She was the daughter of Israel Hudson and Rebecca Banks. Margaret Mae Hudson married William Apt on 15 October 1894 at Parkers Cove, Nova Scotia, Canada. Margaret Mae Hudson died on 28 December 1960 at age 86.

Child of Margaret Mae Hudson and William Apt
Nettie Pearl Woodard Apt+ b. 29 Nov 1894, d. 6 Mar 1966

William Apt (M)
b. 5 May 1862, d. 8 February 1942

     William Apt was born on 5 May 1862. He married Margaret Mae Hudson, daughter of Israel Hudson and Rebecca Banks, on 15 October 1894 at Parkers Cove, Nova Scotia, Canada. William Apt died on 8 February 1942 at age 79.

Child of William Apt and Margaret Mae Hudson
Nettie Pearl Woodard Apt+ b. 29 Nov 1894, d. 6 Mar 1966

Nettie Pearl Woodard Apt (F)
b. 29 November 1894, d. 6 March 1966
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     Her married name was Riggles. Nettie Pearl Woodard Apt was born on 29 November 1894 at Parkers Cove, Nova Scotia, Canada. She was the daughter of William Apt and Margaret Mae Hudson. Nettie Pearl Woodard Apt married Sylvern John Riggles on 20 July 1917. Nettie Pearl Woodard Apt died on 6 March 1966 at Willimantic, Connecticut, USA, at age 71.

Child of Nettie Pearl Woodard Apt and Sylvern John Riggles
Elven Walter Riggles+ (living)

Sylvern John Riggles (M)

     Sylvern John Riggles married Nettie Pearl Woodard Apt, daughter of William Apt and Margaret Mae Hudson, on 20 July 1917.

Child of Sylvern John Riggles and Nettie Pearl Woodard Apt
Elven Walter Riggles+ (living)

Elven Walter Riggles (M)
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     Elven Walter Riggles is the son of Sylvern John Riggles and Nettie Pearl Woodard Apt. Elven Walter Riggles married Marguerite Rose Desrosiers on 24 June 1943.

Child of Elven Walter Riggles and Marguerite Rose Desrosiers
Elven Riggles (living)

Marguerite Rose Desrosiers (F)

     Marguerite Rose Desrosiers married Elven Walter Riggles, son of Sylvern John Riggles and Nettie Pearl Woodard Apt, on 24 June 1943.

Child of Marguerite Rose Desrosiers and Elven Walter Riggles
Elven Riggles (living)

Elven Riggles (M)
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     Elven Riggles is the son of Elven Walter Riggles and Marguerite Rose Desrosiers.

Philemon Whale , Jr. (M)
b. 27 May 1599, d. February 1675
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     Philemon Whale , Jr. Marriage to Elizabeth also listed as 'St Mary's, Bury St Edmund, England' and Nottingham, England. Yet another date of death (in Sudbury) of 24-Feb-1673. Listed as born, as early as 1584/85. In multiple sources, has wives listed as Elizabeth Frost, Sarah ? and Elizabeth Upson. One other marriage date for E. Frost is 27-Nov-1633 in Little Gaddesden, Hertford, England. This family and associated dates are a phenomenon!

IF married more than once, and brides are correct as Frost, ? and Upson, the following dates are offered: 27-Nov-1633, England (Frost), 7-Nov-1649, Sudbury, Mass. (Sarah ?) and AFT 1656 (Upton). Though, even a 9-Nov-1657 date for marriage to Frost has been seen. With a 1603 marriage to Elizabeth ?. Given birthdates, it seems unlikely Elizabeth Frost was the mother of all the children. Though, even THEIR birthdates leave much to be desired, from the lists I've seen. Could it be that Philemon Sr and Jr in this version, are one and the same, and the real 'Junior' is Philemon III? Otherwise, how were the children born to this couple, married in 1621? Could SOME of the children (born before 1620, at least) been the children of Henry Rice, Elizabeth's first husband?

The list of Eliz. Frost and H. Rice's children is supposedly as follows:
Henry b. 1606/07, Edward b. abt 1608, HENRY b. Abt 1610, ELIZABETH b. 18-Nov-1612, Mary and Anne. No Jonas listed, though. And, in the same set of records, Elizabeth 'Rice' goes to marry John Moore, and lists the same children as those for Elizabeth Whale. He was christened on 27 May 1599 at Chickney, Essex, England. He was the son of Philemon Whale , Sr. and Agnes Ann Norwood. Philemon Whale , Jr. married Elizabeth Frost, daughter of Edward Frost and Thomasine Belgrave, on 24 January 1621 at St Mary's, Colchester, England. Philemon Whale , Jr. died in February 1675 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA, at age 75.

Children of Philemon Whale , Jr. and Elizabeth Frost
Jonas Whale b. 1613
Elizabeth Whale+ b. 1615, d. 14 Dec 1690
Henry Whale b. c 1617
Philemon Whale III b. 1619 or 1627
Mary Whale b. c 1621

William Moore (M)
b. circa 1640
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     William Moore was born circa 1640. He was the son of John Moore and Elizabeth Whale.

Lydia Moore (F)
b. 24 June 1643, d. 1723
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     Her married name was Wright. Lydia Moore was born on 24 June 1643 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA. She was the daughter of John Moore and Elizabeth Whale. Lydia Moore married Samuel Wright in 1664. Lydia Moore died in 1723 at Joplin, Missouri?.

Jacob Moore (M)
b. 28 April 1645
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     Jacob Moore was born on 28 April 1645 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA. He was the son of John Moore and Elizabeth Whale.

Joseph Moore (M)
b. 21 October 1647, d. 2 January 1726
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     Joseph Moore was born on 21 October 1647 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA. He was the son of John Moore and Elizabeth Whale. Joseph Moore died on 2 January 1726 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA, at age 78.

Benjamin Moore (M)
b. 13 December 1648, d. 1729
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     Benjamin Moore Also seen a birthdate of 25-Aug-1668. Maybe the NEXT generation? This may also explain a 1729 date of death in Missouri? He was born on 13 December 1648 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA. He was the son of John Moore and Elizabeth Whale. Benjamin Moore died in 1729.

Philemon Whale , Sr. (M)
b. between 22 February 1564 and 1575, d. 1619/20
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     Philemon Whale , Sr. was buried Bef ORE 23-MAR-1619 at Chickney, Essex, England. He was naturalized; Reverend. He THIS is a MOST peculiar family group. There could be two or three Philemon generations. There are SURELY at least multiple wives in one, and possibly two of those generations. There are enough peculiarities in research, that I can surely understand why many ask me if I can clarify this particular line. Though it's not a 'main' line of mine, I'll offer my thoughts.

I BELIEVE there were only two Philemons. The first never made it to the colonies. He died in England in 1619. The second had at LEAST two wives, and possibly three or four. I have serious doubts that he fathered any of his children, but, that most had been fathered by Henry (Thomas) Rice. If one looks at the birthdates of his children, after marrying Elizabeth in 1621, one would realize how impossible that could be. He MAY have been the father of one or two. Whether or not some of those children became 'Whales' is another consideration. It is likely that at least some did.

My Two Philemon Proposal:

Philemon Senior - b. 1564, married 1587 to A. Norwood, dies 1619, never having left England.
Child: Philemon Junior - b. about 1599 in England.
Junior marries Elizabeth Frost, widow of Henry Rice, and 'adopts' her children.
Sometime before 1646, and becomes a freeman in 1648. In June of 1647, Elizabeth passes away. He then marries, in 1649, to Sarah Cakebread. who then dies in 1656, so he marries, in 1657, Elizabeth Griffin. He lives out his life, surrounded by family, and dies in 1676 (give or take a year).

Although the above proposal makes more sense, I might be going against years of research by more prominent genealogists in making any such claim. So, for the sake of argument, I'll leave the families 'as is' in this database, and let you, the reader, decide.

One more note... if there were only two Philemons, which was the father of Elizabeth, who married John Moore??? Well, if you were carefully reading, it would be Philemon, Jr., but.... Elizabeth would have been the BIOLOGICAL daughter of Henry (Thomas) Rice! He was born between 22 February 1564 and 1575 at Chickney, Essex, England. He was the son of Richard Whale and Thomasine Northen. Philemon Whale , Sr. married Agnes Ann Norwood on 4 September 1587 at Canfield, Essex, England. Philemon Whale , Sr. died in 1619/20 at Chickney, Essex, England.

Children of Philemon Whale , Sr. and Agnes Ann Norwood
Elizabeth Whale (living)
Philemon Whale , Jr.+ b. 27 May 1599, d. Feb 1675

Elizabeth Frost (F)
b. between 1585 and 1588, d. 20-APR/JUN-1647
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     Elizabeth Frost died 20-APR/JUN-1647 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA. She Also seen as Elizabeth Post, Elizabeth Weed, Elizabeth Griffin, and others. Though, Elizabeth Griffin is also listed as another wife for Philemon, Sr.... hmmm... Alternate place of birth: Glemsford, Suffolk, England. Some records even show Elizabeth with different parents (John Frost and Ann Scott) marrying Henry Rice, and having Elizabeth Rice, who married John Moore! Her married name was Whale. She was born between 1585 and 1588 at Stanstead, Suffolk, England. She was the daughter of Edward Frost and Thomasine Belgrave. Elizabeth Frost was christened on 24 March 1588 at Glemsford, Suffolk, England. She married Philemon Whale , Jr., son of Philemon Whale , Sr. and Agnes Ann Norwood, on 24 January 1621 at St Mary's, Colchester, England.

Children of Elizabeth Frost and Philemon Whale , Jr.
Jonas Whale b. 1613
Elizabeth Whale+ b. 1615, d. 14 Dec 1690
Henry Whale b. c 1617
Philemon Whale III b. 1619 or 1627
Mary Whale b. c 1621

Agnes Ann Norwood (F)

     Agnes Ann Norwood married Philemon Whale , Sr., son of Richard Whale and Thomasine Northen, on 4 September 1587 at Canfield, Essex, England.

Children of Agnes Ann Norwood and Philemon Whale , Sr.
Elizabeth Whale (living)
Philemon Whale , Jr.+ b. 27 May 1599, d. Feb 1675

Mary Whale (F)
b. circa 1621
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     Mary Whale was born circa 1621 at England. She was the daughter of Philemon Whale , Jr. and Elizabeth Frost.

Philemon Whale III (M)
b. 1619 or 1627
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     Philemon Whale III married Sarah Cakebread, daughter of Thomas Cakebread, 1/7-NOV-1649 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA. Philemon Whale III It was likely THIS Philemon, who was of Sudbury in 1646, a freeman 10-May-1648. May have also married an Elizabeth Andrews, born 1624 Norwich, Norfolk, England, married about 1650 in Massachusetts. It is unknown if this Philemon had any children, so, we should not expect a IV to appear out of the genealogical ether. He was born in 1619 or 1627 at Colchester, Essex, England. He was the son of Philemon Whale , Jr. and Elizabeth Frost.

Sarah Cakebread (F)
d. 28 December 1656
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     Sarah Cakebread was the daughter of Thomas Cakebread. Sarah Cakebread married Philemon Whale III, son of Philemon Whale , Jr. and Elizabeth Frost, 1/7-NOV-1649 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA. Her married name was Whale. Sarah Cakebread died on 28 December 1656 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA.

Richard Whale (M)
b. circa 1525

     Richard Whale was born circa 1525 at Colchester, Essex, England. He married Thomasine Northen circa 1563 at Chickney, Essex, England.

Child of Richard Whale and Thomasine Northen
Philemon Whale , Sr.+ b. bt 22 Feb 1564 - 1575, d. 1619/20

Thomasine Northen (F)
b. circa 1545

     Her married name was Whale. Thomasine Northen was born circa 1545 at Chickney, Essex, England. She married Richard Whale circa 1563 at Chickney, Essex, England.

Child of Thomasine Northen and Richard Whale
Philemon Whale , Sr.+ b. bt 22 Feb 1564 - 1575, d. 1619/20

Edward Frost (M)
b. 13 March 1561, d. 3 August 1616
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     Edward Frost was born on 13 March 1561 at Stanstead, Suffolk, England. He was the son of John Frost and Mrs. Frost. Edward Frost married Thomasine Belgrave, daughter of John Belgrave and Johanna Strutt, on 26 September 1585 at Glemsford, Suffolk, England. Edward Frost died on 3 August 1616 at Stanstead, Suffolk, England, at age 55.

Children of Edward Frost and Thomasine Belgrave
Elizabeth Frost+ b. bt 1585 - 1588, d. 20-APR/JUN-1647
Thomasine Frost+ b. 10 Aug 1600, d. 13 Jun 1654

Thomasine Belgrave (F)
b. 11 August 1560, d. 13 June 1653
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     Her married name was Frost. Thomasine Belgrave was born on 11 August 1560 at Stanstead, Suffolk, England. She was the daughter of John Belgrave and Johanna Strutt. Thomasine Belgrave married Edward Frost, son of John Frost and Mrs. Frost, on 26 September 1585 at Glemsford, Suffolk, England. Thomasine Belgrave died on 13 June 1653 at Sudbury, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, USA, at age 92.

Children of Thomasine Belgrave and Edward Frost
Elizabeth Frost+ b. bt 1585 - 1588, d. 20-APR/JUN-1647
Thomasine Frost+ b. 10 Aug 1600, d. 13 Jun 1654

Jonas Whale (M)
b. 1613
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     Jonas Whale was born in 1613 at Chickney, Essex, England. He was the son of Philemon Whale , Jr. and Elizabeth Frost.

Henry Whale (M)
b. circa 1617
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     Henry Whale was born circa 1617 at Colchester, Essex, England. He was the son of Philemon Whale , Jr. and Elizabeth Frost.

Anna Moore (F)
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     Anna Moore is the daughter of John Moore and Elizabeth Whale.

Richard Moore (M)
b. circa 1636
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     Richard Moore was born circa 1636 at Berkhamstead, Hertfordshire, England. He was the son of John Moore and Elizabeth Whale.

John Moore (M)
b. 28 February 1639, d. 23 July 1702
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     John Moore was born on 28 February 1639 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA. He was the son of John Moore and Elizabeth Whale. John Moore died on 23 July 1702 at Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts, USA, at age 63.

Elizabeth A. Moore (F)
b. 10 January 1649
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     Elizabeth A. Moore was born on 10 January 1649 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA. She was the daughter of John Moore and Elizabeth Whale.

Benjamin A. Moore (M)
b. 10 January 1649
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     Benjamin A. Moore It's more likely this is the same person as Benjamin Moore. The fact that his 'birthdate' is the same as sister Elizabeth, makes it also as likely that the date was neither's actual birthdate, but, the date of christening. Of course, they COULD have been twins. Birthdates. He was born on 10 January 1649 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA. He was the son of John Moore and Elizabeth Whale.

Edmund Moore (M)
b. circa 1651
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     Edmund Moore was born circa 1651 at Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA. He was the son of John Moore and Elizabeth Whale.

Elizabeth Loker (F)

Samuel Wright (M)

     Samuel Wright married Lydia Moore, daughter of John Moore and Elizabeth Whale, in 1664.

Thomas Cakebread (M)

Child of Thomas Cakebread
Sarah Cakebread d. 28 Dec 1656

Elizabeth Griffin (F)
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     Elizabeth Griffin is the daughter of Hugh Griffin.

Hugh Griffin (M)

Child of Hugh Griffin
Elizabeth Griffin (living)

Elizabeth Whale (F)
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     Elizabeth Whale is the daughter of Philemon Whale , Sr. and Agnes Ann Norwood.

Mildred Bayliss (F)
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     Mildred Bayliss is the daughter of William Bayliss and Eva Fazekas. Mildred Bayliss married Julian Ciklin on 15 March 1946 at East Norwalk, Connecticut, USA.

Children of Mildred Bayliss and Julian Ciklin
Alan Jay Ciklin+ (living)
Blair Jan Ciklin+ (living)
Cory Jon Ciklin+ (living)

William John Bayliss (M)
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     William John Bayliss is the son of William Bayliss and Eva Fazekas.

Children of William John Bayliss and Irene Dykas
Michelle Bayliss+ (living)
William John Bayliss , III b. 1956, d. 2 Jul 1985
Christopher Matthew Bayliss (living)

Florence Bayliss (F)
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     Florence Bayliss is the daughter of William Bayliss and Eva Fazekas. Florence Bayliss married John Segrel O'Malley on 5 October 1946 at Norwalk, Fairfield County, Connecticut, USA.

Children of Florence Bayliss and John Segrel O'Malley
Gary John O'Malley+ (living)
Brian William O'Malley+ (living)
Scott Kevin O'Malley+ (living)

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