- Name: Philip M. Hanselpacker
- Birth: 1801
- Death: 19-OCT-1883 in: Queens County, New Brunswick, Canada
- Father: John Hanselpacker
- Mother: Julia Balmain
Notes: 1861 Census for Cambridge Parish, Queens County, NB:
149 Hanselpacker Philip 60 Nat Methodist
" " Mary A 42 " "
Mary 17
Lucretta 16
Elmira 15
Sapora 13
Philip 12
Wellington 10
Larsey 8
Lebaron 7
Most of the information on Phillip marrying a CHARLOTTE Slipp comes from online resources, such at the Broderbund WFT, the Swanson.ftw and the Slipp.ftw, these all give her birth year as 1811. This gets a bit hairy. MANY sources provide two comple tely separate families for Philip. In one, he's married to Charlotte Mary Slipp and has five children, one being Phillip. In another, he's married to Mary A. Slipp and has five children, one being Phillip. Both these marriages were listed (one wo uld assume) before the information on Mary Ann Starkey came to light, showing their marriage in 1842 (which makes her the mother of all of Philip's children. It also means she is the one buried with him in the United Church Cemetery!
After careful consideration, the following explanation of the family and why there's been confusion is offered:
Mary Elizabeth - b. 1840-44 marr. 1870 to Hiram Ferris
Luetta - b. 1845 died 1864
Almira - b. 19-May-1846 marr. 1869 to William Springer
Phillip - b. 1848 (doubt 1849) marr. Seraphina Coes
Wellington - b. 1849
Sephora - b. 1851
Tirza/Terzah - b. 1853
Lucey (?) (Poss. Twin of Tirzah, or middle name?) - b. 1853
Lebaron b. 21-Dec-1854
This explains the presence or lack thereof of all children in the 1871 Census for Cambridge, Queens County, NB. The marriage date for Phillip and (Charlotte Mary) is likely 28-Jan-1829, while he and Mary Ann Starkey were married in 1842. That mak es "Charlotte" a "non-player" if you will, though I'm leaving her ancestry in the database, should any other individual also tie into it.
The only child who still has potential to "muck this up" is Lucey. Was Lucey the middle name of Tirza? Was Lucey her twin?
There is no record of a family with Phillip and Charlotte in the 1871 Census (as whatever Ms. Slip(p)'s true given name was, they had either divorced or she'd passed on by then). Considering ALL the records: 1) They would have HAD to have live d in Queens County at the time.
2) The matching Phillips (birth and death and no trace of another family who he might have belonged to.
3) The proximity of marriage and birth dates.
4) The LACK of ancestry on Mary Slipp, but complete on Charlotte Mary Slipp.
5) The lack of ancestry on any Phillip marrying a Charlotte, but complete when marrying a Mary.
All these factors have been taken into consideration and weighed most carefully. For that reason, this is now one family, vice two.
For those who've had difficulty in sorting, here is how the "two family mess" was originally viewed:
Phillip M. Hanselpacker marr. Charlotte Mary Slipp - 1829/39?
Children: Mary Elizabeth, Luetta, Almira, Phillip, and Lucey.
Phillip Hanselpacker marr. Mary Slipp - 1829
Children: Phillip, Wellington, Sephora, Tirza and Lebaron (as are listed in 1871 Census)
But, we also NOW know that Philip married Mary Ann Starkey in 1842, so SHE would be the Mary A. of the census records. As for Mary A. Slip (as spelled in Queens County Marriages), it lists their marriage as 28-Jan-1829, the day before his brothe r William married Mary Ann Clark!
As of the 1871 Census, Luetta had surely died (1864), Mary Elizabeth and Almira had "married off", and the only one in the first family not accounted for was Lucey, who may have died young or married by 18 years of age.
Final proof rests on research in New Brunswick, and/or finding the equivalent of an 1861 Census. If there exists further VITAL RECORDS proof of this being two separate families, I will more than willingly split them back into those two groups. Th ough, after all the research in New Brunswick, all the scouring of files online, all the pouring over material presented by other researchers, what is presented in this genealogy is my best understanding of the true nature of these relationships.
In 1861 Census of Cambridge Parish, we find our proof, which also seems to elude to the Lucey and Tirzah being one and the same person, since the name is then spelled Larsey. WHAT her given name was may FOREVER remain a mystery, since it's bee n spelled at least a dozen different ways! We do know she was female and born @1853.
Here's how Philip and Mary Ann's family "stacked up" in the 1861 Census:
Philip, age 60 - Farmer w/ 4 at school - all listed as Methodists
Mary A. - age 42
Mary - age 17
Lucretta (Luetta) - age 16
Elmira (Almyra) - age 15
Sapora (Sephora) - age 13
Philip - age 12
Wellington - age 10
Larsey (Lucey/Thursay/Tursey/Tirzah) - age 8
Lebaron - age 7
Lists his religion in the 1871 Census (Cambridge Parish) as Wesleyan Methodist. Here's the kicker, he listed his "Origin" as Dutch. First time that's been blatantly displayed. The Peter Hanselpiker, having "come from" Germany, never indicate d he must then be German, merely that he CAME from there (which, in fact, he likely didn't). However, this indicates at least a CHANCE at Dutch roots.
Witnesses to marriage with Mary: Charles McAlpine and Benjamin Clark.
What's interesting to note, their marriage, listed as 29-Jan-1829, (VITAL RECORDS) is same date as brother William (double marriage). Wondering if that has been the cause of some concern, over the years? ALSO, the Mary Slipp "Charlotte"?/Philli p marriage was 28-Jan-1839.... (Online sources).
According to Wendell Fulton, it is most likely this Philip, who, on 9-Jul-1875 sold for $400 to Philip ("Jr.") land in Cambridge, at the settlement known as "The Denn".
It was almost certainly this Philip who was a teacher from at least 1824 to 1848. His record being as follows (from "In Duty Bound"):
Licensed in Sunbury County, 06-Jul-1824, Waterborough 06-Jun-1843 renewal. "Philip Hanselpacker held a license to teach in the parish of Waterborough in 1848." He is known to have taught in Sunbury County from 1825-1827 and Waterborough from 182 8-1831, at the least.
- Married: 28-JAN-1829 in: Queens County, New Brunswick, Canada
- Name: Charlotte Mary Slipp
- Birth: 1811 in: Cambridge, Queens County, New Brunswick, Canada
- Death: ABOUT 1841? in: Queens County, New Brunswick, Canada
- Father: John Slip
- Mother: Hannah Merritt
Notes: In some sources, shown only as "Charlotte" Mary Slipp (including the Slipp Genealogy). Also, another source appears to have 19-Oct-1883 as her date of death, though multiple sources have that as Phillip's, so, assuming "read-over" (unless they di ed together, somehow). Have never found a Phillip and Charlotte in any Census (at least not in QUEENS County). Did locate Phillip and Mary A. in 1871 Census of Cambridge Parish, Queens. The question remains, was there one woman who went by Charl otte Mary/Mary Slipp? I'm doubtful, as the 1829 marriage record indicates Mary A. Slip (one p). There IS a Charlotte Slipp, alive in the right timeframe, though I don't believe she was ever truly married to Philip. The Queens County Marriage s only show TWO marriages for Philip, one to Mary A. Slip (1829) and his 2nd to Mary Ann Starkey (1842). REF: "Queens County, New Brunswick Marriages Volume A , 1812-1861" by R. Wallace Hale, Heritage Books, 1986.
As obvious trouble as Charlotte and Mary Slipp have been, other genealogists have been equally baffled. The following is a note from the Slipp Family Website at www.onelibrary.com/genealogy/slipp/ it references Rick Crume as making the inputs..." NOTE: Named Charlotte Mary (or) Mary A? Born 1800? Settled in Scotchtown and buried in White's Cove (Grand Lake) in the United Church Cemetery. Her Son Philip is buried there also. " Of course, the problem with that is we now know that the Mar y A. Hanselpacker in the United Church Cemetery is actually Mary A. Starkey, as she was Philip's second wife and mother of the children.
In one version of the Slipp Genealogy, the Mary Slipp, dau. of John Slipp and Hannah Merritt, actually married Charles Palmer. Now, whether she married twice, or, if it was another Mary Slipp who married Philip, is something surely to be worke d on for some time. In another source, the Mary Slipp who married Charles Palmer is actually a sister of John Slipp, not his daughter. Based on birth date in that record, it makes far more sense.
NOT to be confused with the Mary Slipp, b. 10-Mar-1792 in Gagetown, NB, Can. d. 13-Feb-1858, married Charles Palmer (dau. of Leonard Slipp and Elizabeth Riemer)??? However, the possibility does exist that Mary Slipp, sister of John Slipp, may hav e married Philip. If so, she had children until 1854, making her 62 for the last child. Far-fetched, yes, but, not IMpossible. Still seeking a different Mary, however, and 1820 date of birth is estimated from 1871 Census of Cambridge Parish, Qu eens, NB. Marriage of Philip and Mary was witnessed by Charles McAlpine and Benjamin Clark on 29-Jan-1829 (see e-mail from Ruth W., which lists same exact date for marriage of William H. and Mary Clarke).
NOTE: Though the 1871 Census I've seen lists her as 51 in the 1871 Census, and this does not compute with information on Charlotte Slipp (which I'm thinking it should), as otherwise Phillip was twenty years older (not impossible, just less likely) . Thought - 61 misread as 51? Need to access original census copy.
Just to make matter worse, there is also a record, though I've only seen the marriage with no dates or places, that a Mary Ann Slipp married John MacAlpine.... may have been in the "Early Baptists of Queens County, New Brunswick" book.
In the Early Baptists book, the Slipp genealogy applies to Charlotte NOT Mary. However, the given name of the Hanselpacker she is supposed to have married is not shown. Sadly, there are not any "available" Hanselpacker bachelors at the time, wit h the possible exception of William, brother of Philip, who married Eleanor MacDonald, but for whom no further information can be found.
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